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  • Post #181 - February 27th, 2024, 10:42 am
    Post #181 - February 27th, 2024, 10:42 am Post #181 - February 27th, 2024, 10:42 am
    ronnie_suburban wrote:
    Personally, I love the way message boards like this one are organized, so that's nothing I see as in need of adjusting. I'm guessing that many who spend time here feel the same.

    Beyond all that, I loathe social media. I might not be the best custodian of LTH but I'd never willingly drop our 20 years of collectively-built history squarely into someone else's platform. Arbitrary rule changes, unilateral conflict resolution, and primarily motivated by the constant need for ever-increasing profits. And that's just to name a few. It's really a complete non-starter.

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  • Post #182 - February 27th, 2024, 11:28 am
    Post #182 - February 27th, 2024, 11:28 am Post #182 - February 27th, 2024, 11:28 am
    ronnie_suburban wrote:Beyond all that, I loathe social media.
    [tongue-in-cheek]Isn't LTH social media?[/tongue-in-cheek]
    I share your disgust with the mo' views, mo' money model with its curated echo chamber feeds, endless spam and advertising everywhere. And I failed to note that, as Cathy2 points out, FB groups don't have a way to organize topics; they are organized as posts, replies, and replies-to-replies. Anyhoo, a workaround upvote for your comments.
    Cynthia
    wrote:
    I am grateful that you are in charge.
    And one for this as well. Thanks, Ron, for all you do!
  • Post #183 - February 27th, 2024, 6:00 pm
    Post #183 - February 27th, 2024, 6:00 pm Post #183 - February 27th, 2024, 6:00 pm
    ronnie_suburban wrote:

    I loathe social media. I might not be the best custodian of LTH but I'd never willingly drop our 20 years of collectively-built history squarely into someone else's platform. Arbitrary rule changes, unilateral conflict resolution, and primarily motivated by the constant need for ever-increasing profits. And that's just to name a few. It's really a complete non-starter.


    100% agreement. There's no need to go into details, but I avoided social media since it started. I believe doing so has helped my mental state.

    LTH on Facebook is a no go for me.
    Where there’s smoke, there may be salmon.
  • Post #184 - March 6th, 2024, 9:16 am
    Post #184 - March 6th, 2024, 9:16 am Post #184 - March 6th, 2024, 9:16 am
    The debate in this Sweet Rabbit Bakery thread, which includes a good debate on the flakiness of the pastries, really hammers home the importance of pictures. I think if LTH was being started in today's adult internet era rather than the infant era of 2004, it would be inconceivable to not prioritize photos.

    I know Ron is working on making it easier to add pics to posts, but until that happens, it would be so helpful if people would take the time to add pictures to posts where appropriate. As others have shown in this thread and elsewhere, if you're posting from a computer, it's really not hard to do.
  • Post #185 - March 6th, 2024, 5:21 pm
    Post #185 - March 6th, 2024, 5:21 pm Post #185 - March 6th, 2024, 5:21 pm
    lol. Who the f uses a pc other than at work. And I’m too damn busy there to be posting pics. I might be lazy But I don’t need another password/ photo hosting account. It’s 2024. Stuff should be easily shareable imho. Folks who know me see what I eat on fb til then. The photo thing is a big deal. Get it fixed and. Damn. LTH could be more relevant to a larger segment.
  • Post #186 - March 6th, 2024, 6:29 pm
    Post #186 - March 6th, 2024, 6:29 pm Post #186 - March 6th, 2024, 6:29 pm
    MarlaCollins'Husband wrote:The debate in this Sweet Rabbit Bakery thread, which includes a good debate on the flakiness of the pastries, really hammers home the importance of pictures.


    Point taken. Although as one of the main pastry pontificators in the quoted thread, I'll just say that the ease of upload doesn't have a lot to do with why I didn't include any pictures with some of these posts. I rarely stop to document food in this way anymore so there was no picture to upload. I think I just wanted to focus on enjoying the food in front of me rather than stopping to capture it in some way. I don't remember how that timeline compares with when the picture story changed here.

    But this is a reminder that pictures might help to communicate ideas, bolster arguments, whet appetites, etc. Given that, I will try to think to grab them a bit more.
  • Post #187 - March 6th, 2024, 7:13 pm
    Post #187 - March 6th, 2024, 7:13 pm Post #187 - March 6th, 2024, 7:13 pm
    jimswside wrote:lol. Who the f uses a pc other than at work. And I’m too damn busy there to be posting pics. I might be lazy But I don’t need another password/ photo hosting account. It’s 2024. Stuff should be easily shareable imho. Folks who know me see what I eat on fb til then. The photo thing is a big deal. Get it fixed and. Damn. LTH could be more relevant to a larger segment.

    If you're looking for a primarily mobile app, I can assure you that LTH will never fit the bill. Sorry.

    As for inline image uploads, I'm now working with the 5th person I've tried to have remedy it. The first 4 -- all self-described experts with phpBB -- were unable resolve it. It's a difficult issue and its resolution is attached to some larger issues that need to be repaired first. Those repairs -- significant and fundamental -- are well underway but they will take more time. There is no ETA. The person who's helping is very well-versed but doing it on a volunteer basis. He's often busy with pressing work issues, so I'd feel like a dick pushing him on it.

    If you or anyone else has a credible source of assistance, please let me know. In the meantime, I promise that I will hold membership rates steady through the end of 2024! :wink:

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  • Post #188 - March 6th, 2024, 9:29 pm
    Post #188 - March 6th, 2024, 9:29 pm Post #188 - March 6th, 2024, 9:29 pm
    I think this might be an age thing. I grew up in the days when all restaurant reviews were just words. There might be an occasional photo, but it was only if there was a profile of a chef or new venue. Chicago Magazine was filled with one-column-inch reviews, and readers just went and tried places until one began to know which reviewer had expectations most similar to one's own. (Same for movies.) Even now, while a nice photo might catch my attention, I don't require photos to be attracted to a place, and rarely take photos myself. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate good food photography -- because I do. Just not a deal breaker for me.

    So no contribution to the solution, just a realization that background can make a difference in expectations.
    "All great change in America begins at the dinner table." Ronald Reagan

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  • Post #189 - March 7th, 2024, 8:33 am
    Post #189 - March 7th, 2024, 8:33 am Post #189 - March 7th, 2024, 8:33 am
    I'm old enough to need readers to look at my phone but young enough to be addicted to Instagram. When I can, I always use my laptop for screen time, less strain on the eyes, better for typing. I come to LTH more for the written word. There's plenty of pictures everywhere else on social media. I've been deprogramming myself to always reach for my phone to document every dish I eat. Like gastro gnome, I am focusing on being present with the food and my company. Sure, images can help illustrate a point about pastry lamination, but there's a culture of articulate writing here, which feels like a dying medium.
  • Post #190 - March 7th, 2024, 1:18 pm
    Post #190 - March 7th, 2024, 1:18 pm Post #190 - March 7th, 2024, 1:18 pm
    Yeah fuck the written word, I'm way too cool for that bs. Pictures only and lots of memes! At restaurants too. There should only be pictures on menus and we can point at what we want to order just like at Denny's. Gotta go. My brain hurts from all this typing.
  • Post #191 - March 7th, 2024, 2:55 pm
    Post #191 - March 7th, 2024, 2:55 pm Post #191 - March 7th, 2024, 2:55 pm
    Clarence Beeks wrote:There should only be pictures on menus and we can point at what we want to order just like at Denny's. Gotta go. My brain hurts from all this typing.

    Dear Mr. Beeks,

    I realize you are still shook from your “encounter “ with the gorilla. But Please do not disparage Denny’s. Where elites meat and greet for a bite to eat.

    Cordially,
    The Duke brothers.
    Hold my beer . . .

    Low & Slow
  • Post #192 - April 10th, 2024, 3:35 pm
    Post #192 - April 10th, 2024, 3:35 pm Post #192 - April 10th, 2024, 3:35 pm
    So I freely admit - I was already checking the forum less often in recent years just because I was getting older and less inclined to eat out, and then stopped doing both entirely during Covid. I'm now starting to venture out again, and I greatly prefer the forum to more 'modern' social media sites.

    Forums might seem antiquated, but they have the advantage of having much, much more information bandwidth compared to something like Reddit. You can not only find information going back years, but have a much more in depth discussion. As a general rule, I find the quality and value of a particular form of social media to be directly proportionate to its information density - but the popularity of a particular site seems to have an inverse relationship. Low bandwidth = more views, but less (and worse) information.

    I hope LTH remains, because it was invaluable to me in seeking out and finding great restaurants all over Chicago, and not just in the Loop.
    "I've always thought pastrami was the most sensuous of the salted cured meats."
  • Post #193 - April 11th, 2024, 8:58 pm
    Post #193 - April 11th, 2024, 8:58 pm Post #193 - April 11th, 2024, 8:58 pm
    I have some photos from my last vacation that I can't really put on some of the feeds that I run because they are focused on local food pics. I will share them in a couple places like this. I just have to remind myself to get the photos edited and uploaded and then write up the descriptions. Sometimes I am so out of my rhythm that I just don't get around to uploading them one place I may forget to post them anywhere.

    Forum traffic and engagement is down all over the place. Other platforms like blogs are down too. There are bloggers doing the same thing for 20 years for the same audience and their ad revenue could be down up to 95% from just five or six years ago. Ad supported forums went from being revenue generators that could make enough to pay for hosting, to being stuck in a place where ad revenue is nonexistent and hosting service has to be paid for somehow.
  • Post #194 - April 11th, 2024, 11:00 pm
    Post #194 - April 11th, 2024, 11:00 pm Post #194 - April 11th, 2024, 11:00 pm
    ronnie_suburban wrote:If you or anyone else has a credible source of assistance, please let me know. In the meantime, I promise that I will hold membership rates steady through the end of 2024! :wink:

    =R=
    for LTH


    How about financial? I’m thinking low overhead fund drive. Venmo or Zelle or Cash App. I bet there are 50 of us who can donate $10, and there may be 10 who will donate $50. Would that get you anywhere with your tech guy?

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