Jamie wrote:Really good fries don't need ketchup. It's a shame to put ketchup on a lot of fries -- Gene & Jude's, Wiener's Circle, WASC, Kuma's, Al's.
I only use ketchup on mediocre fries.
Jamie wrote:Really good fries don't need ketchup. It's a shame to put ketchup on a lot of fries -- Gene & Jude's, Wiener's Circle, WASC, Kuma's, Al's.
I only use ketchup on mediocre fries.
d4v3 wrote:Since G & J wraps the fries up with the hotdogs, trace amounts of hotdog infused water are transferred to the surface of the fries.
David Hammond wrote:Those of you who never cease to rail against catsup, despite the fact that it's almost invisible on most menus, and with just about everyone everywhere agreeing with you, should look inside yourselves and consider the basis for this groundless phobia. Why, oh why, must you continue to pile on pointlessly, to beat up this condiment, which is almost as universal as salt and pepper, found in so many of the sauces you relish, and beloved by billions in one form or another? There is no problem with catsup. Is there a problem with you? Pretty much has to be, don't you think?
midas wrote:David Hammond wrote:Those of you who never cease to rail against catsup, despite the fact that it's almost invisible on most menus, and with just about everyone everywhere agreeing with you, should look inside yourselves and consider the basis for this groundless phobia. Why, oh why, must you continue to pile on pointlessly, to beat up this condiment, which is almost as universal as salt and pepper, found in so many of the sauces you relish, and beloved by billions in one form or another? There is no problem with catsup. Is there a problem with you? Pretty much has to be, don't you think?
Whipped cream is a great addition to many a food substance. Add it to ice cream, put it on strawberries, even use it for a little late night diversion with your SO. Whipped cream is one of life's true joys. That doesn't mean you should be putting it on a pizza.
ronnie_suburban wrote: It's nothing at all like putting whipped cream on pizza.
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ChicagoTRS wrote:#1 When you go there expect a long line...and plan to wait it out...
#2 Eat the dogs and fries in the parking lot...much better when everything is still hot and crisp...
Gimmie 3 singles with mustard...relish...peppers...and a large grape drink...
Life rule: Once you are past 12 years old...no more ketchup!
The analogy is actually spot-on. Nobody is railing against ketchup, catsup or catchup (whatever you call a mixture of high fructose corn syrup, rendered tomatoes and food coloring). People are simply objecting to the act of putting catchup on hotdogs. Personally I like catsup on hash-browns and even meat loaf, but I don't think it belongs on sausages, burgers or sandwiches. If people were in the habit of eating ketchup on apple pie, I would complain about that too, but they don't, so there is no need to bring it up. I don't mean that people don't have a right to eat whatever they want, however they want. Lord knows that I, like Mr. Hammond, eat many things that make less adventurous eaters cringe in horror. I even discovered that I like filling fortune cookies with aerosol cheese, but that doesn't mean I have to keep my mouth shut when somebody (IMHO) ruins a perfectly good sausage by burying it in sweet sticky red stuff. It is, however, their right to do so, just as it is my right to object to it. Perhaps my aversion to the substance is because my Dad put it on just about everything (including fried eggs and lamb chops), much to mother's chagrin. Actually, the whole catsup on hotdog thing is just a point of civic pride. It is a way of placing ourselves above the heathen uneducated unwashed and huddled masses that dwell in the outlands. For Gene and Jude's, it is simply a marketing ploy. Nobody is being arrested or assaulted for putting ketchup on red hots, so just accept the good natured ribbing and go with the flow (and keep some of those ubiquitous little foil packets in your glove box).ronnie_suburban wrote:LOL . . . that is one of the weakest analogies I've ever read. I don't put ketchup on my hotdogs but asserting that doing so is equal to putting whipped cream on pizza is utterly absurd. Ketchup on hotdogs is a fairly common thing -- maybe not in Chicago, but in many other places. It's nothing at all like putting whipped cream on pizza.
If you don't like it, fine. But who cares how others eat their food? I dunno; I just can't go there.
ronnie_suburban wrote:But who cares how others eat their food?
ronnie_suburban wrote:what someone else chooses to do with their sausage, is none of my concern -- provided no one gets hurt.
iblock9 wrote:ronnie_suburban wrote:But who cares how others eat their food?
Dont we all? Otherwise why post on this website.
Marshall K wrote:If Gene & Judes, who appear to have been somewhat successful for some time, choose not to serve catsup so be it. If you don't like it don't go. I am confident they won't miss you. Besides their fries don't need catsup.
ronnie_suburban wrote:A hotdog joint not offering ketchup for french fries -- mainly because they are concerned that someone might sneakily apply some of it to their hotdog -- is akin to a certain Seinfeld episode. The self-importance is mind-boggling.
These places should just admit that they are (and have always been) too damned cheap and indifferent to stock it and drop the cock and bull stories about it being part of some higher philosophy.
d4v3 wrote:For Gene and Jude's, it is simply a marketing ploy.
Of course it's a gimmick, and an effective one too. Look how much free publicity they have gotten here. Discussion of this "tradition" has kept them at the top of one of Chicago's premier food forums for a week.stevez wrote:Tradition, maybe...but I doubt anyone at Gene and Jude's (or Jimmy's, for that matter) has given the issue enough thought to come up with this as a marketing gimmick.
d4v3 wrote:Of course it's a gimmick, and an effective one too. Look how much free publicity they have gotten here. Discussion of this "tradition" has kept them at the top of one of Chicago's premier food forums for a week..stevez wrote:Tradition, maybe...but I doubt anyone at Gene and Jude's (or Jimmy's, for that matter) has given the issue enough thought to come up with this as a marketing gimmick.
David Hammond wrote:...
The whole argument that a good fry, or hambuger, or hot dog "doesn't need" catsup is specious. Condiments enhance and bring out new dimensions in food. A good farm fresh egg with canadian bacon doesn't need hollandaise, but the sauce certainly brings something to the table; an excellent steak from David Burke doesn't need blue cheese on top, but it's really good that way.
David Hammond wrote:...
The whole argument that a good fry, or hambuger, or hot dog "doesn't need" catsup is specious. Condiments enhance and bring out new dimensions in food. A good farm fresh egg with canadian bacon doesn't need KETCHUP, but the sauce certainly brings something to the table; an excellent steak from David Burke doesn't need KETCHUP on top, but it's really good that way.
Mike G wrote:I think I said something like this on Chowhound once, which suggests how long the debate has been going on
seebee wrote:IFDavid Hammond wrote:...
The whole argument that a good fry, or hambuger, or hot dog "doesn't need" catsup is specious. Condiments enhance and bring out new dimensions in food. A good farm fresh egg with canadian bacon doesn't need hollandaise, but the sauce certainly brings something to the table; an excellent steak from David Burke doesn't need blue cheese on top, but it's really good that way.
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condiments = Ketchup, Hollandaise, Blue cheese
THENDavid Hammond wrote:...
The whole argument that a good fry, or hambuger, or hot dog "doesn't need" catsup is specious. Condiments enhance and bring out new dimensions in food. A good farm fresh egg with canadian bacon doesn't need KETCHUP, but the sauce certainly brings something to the table; an excellent steak from David Burke doesn't need KETCHUP on top, but it's really good that way.
midas wrote:Well, all my posts so far in this thread have been tongue - in - cheek.
midas wrote:Seems the pro-ketchup bunch doth protest too much.