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 Post subject: River Dogs, East Bottoms hot dog shack
PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:14 am 
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Tipped off to this place, maybe open a month, on the estimable KCRag Forum.

It's garnered quite a following there and lots of trial, to the point that, when I asked the owner how business was, he commented about all the positive KCRag reviews and the number of people they have brought in. Cheers to that.

I really don't know how to do justice to the physical location (the curse of easy picture posting). I don't know the East Bottoms at all, or much about its reputation in KC, except that it's "where you go to dump the bodies," to which nearly everyone feels compelled to add "literally." Suffice to say, this is perhaps the most unlikely "restaurant" location I've ever seen. I put "restaurant" in quotes because the location consists of a small brick building with sliding order window and two outside picnic tables.

You can take a look here at where you're headed. The small brick building on the right. Feel free to use the magic of Google Street View to check out the neighborhood. It made a fascinating walk on a nice day last week from a friend's River Market office.

The food? Well, hot dogs--like other iconic American street food--are so much a function of expectations. In that sense, I have a hard time calling these hot dogs. They are unusually large, both in length and girth, served split down the middle with condiments filling the resulting crevice, another unorthodox touch.

I tried two dogs, the KC Dog and the Chicago Dog. KC had onions, ketchup, and mustard (I think that's all). The Chicago Dog represented the "salad on a bun school," with relish, mustard, onion, tomato, pickle spear, sport pepper. Both tasted just fine, good enough to return for, but not so memorable as to rush back for. The sausage is made to spec locally by Fritz's, which is a nice touch.

The snap of the natural casing is unfortunately diminished by breaking the seal before you eat it. And ultimately, the odd proportions--while making a fine sandwich in their own right--lessens its capacity to fill a true hot dog jones. Though the sausage tastes hot doggy enough that it doesn't quite stand on its own as "sausage" either. My guess is the hot dogs are boiled then very lightly heated on a griddle before serving. Our order for 3 dogs and fries took maybe 5-10 minutes (no line), which suggested our food was freshly prepared, a suggestion in further evidence by the actual product. Nice touch also.

As for the "Chicago-ness" of the dog, there is considerable debate about how universal the term is. (Historian Bruce Kraig has recently published (or maybe very soon?) a global history on the subject.*) I actually prefer the minimalist school (mustard, onion, sport pepper) to the full salad complement. I will say, River Dogs put a better tomato on their dog than any I've ever tasted at a Chicago stand, and to accomplish as much in March is an accomplishment indeed. Two components some traditionalists might miss from the offering are the celery salt and poppy seed bun.

Fries were fine, frozen, nothing special, and like the dog, a huge portion. The menu includes such fast food fare as burgers, pork tenderloins, pig snoots, and assuming the owner puts as much care into all of his items as he seems to, I'm optimistic about their quality.

It's weird, in the weeks before I learned this place existed, my wife and I had talked about a lack of hot dog culture here and wondering how such a joint would do. It was striking in a move from Chicago (where the prevalence of hot dog stands took quite a bit of getting used to many years ago). The uniqueness of this place certainly supports the thesis that there isn't some KC hot dog gap that needs to be filled. Whether recent failed attempts in Westport and downtown Overland Park indicate a poor hot dog market, or just poor businesses, I don't know, but I certainly wish River Dogs all the best.

River Dogs
1010 E 1st Street
Kansas City, MO 64120
(816) 221-3647‎

*[Disclosure: I have a number of friends who have contributed in one form or another to this work.]


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 Post subject: Re: River Dogs, East Bottoms hot dog shack
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:25 pm 
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I went there for the first time on Friday (I was the recipient of "the last dog" and much reviled by others behind me who didn't get one!). I loved the ambience (what does that say about me?) but will need to give the food another try. Due to the counter help being MIA, the owner/grillman was also manning the ordering window. He brought out food for approx 5 people in front of us, took our orders, along with those of several others, went back to prepare it . . . you get the idea. So my Chicago dog suffered from the wait until my friend's (and several others') tenderloins were cooked. She loved hers, though (apparently, since she didn't even offer me a taste!) and the guy was so genuinely nice and apologetic about the glitches, we'll definitely go back. Not sure I'm up to the pig snout but will try just about everything else eventually.


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 Post subject: Re: River Dogs, East Bottoms hot dog shack
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:17 pm 
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Tried a cheeseburger this afternoon, a generous 1/3 lb. Definitely a good burger, perhaps could have been seasoned a little more. Patted fresh by all appearances. I wonder if you can have it cooked to order, mine came out with no pink, but still pretty juicy.


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 Post subject: Re: River Dogs, East Bottoms hot dog shack
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:10 am 
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A hot dog piece in The Star today continues along the theme that KC isn't a hot dog town.

The Star archives content pretty quickly, presumably in the interest of ever-further suppressing the exposure of its content, but what I find most striking is that three of five places visited (River Dogs not among them) also butterfly the sausage. Two of those also get their sausage from Fritz's (one actually a knockwurst). Could Fritz's give these sort of instructions with delivery of sausage? This seems really odd.

The sausages sampled were

The Flea--oversized Fritz's dog, butterflied...sounds much like the River Dogs product, would be curious to hear a comparison
Coach's--this is the splayed knockwurst, never heard of this place
Fritz's Railroad--I've had the burgers here, fine, cute kid-appeal train delivery system; dogs sound comparable to Oscar Meyer
Fritz's, the sausage maker--applaud the guy for going to the source, I need to check this place out
and
Miami Ice--which sounds like it puts out a reasonable facsimile of a normal hot dog, though it's mostly an ice cream shop

Westport Flea Market Bar & Grill
817 Westport Rd
Kansas City, MO 64111
(816) 931-1986
http://www.westportfleamarket.com/

Coach’s Bar & Grill
414 W 103rd St
Kansas City, MO 64114
(816) 941-2286
http://www.coach-s.com/

Fritz’s Railroad
250 N 18th St
Kansas City, KS 66102
(913) 281-2777‎

Fritz’s Superior Meat Co.
10326 State Line Road,
Leawood, KS 66206
(913) 381-4618
http://www.fritzskcmeats.com/

Miami Ice
1624 W 39th St
Kansas City, MO 64111
(816) 561-5600


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 Post subject: Re: River Dogs, East Bottoms hot dog shack
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:42 am 
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Hot Dogs and sausages are the topic of discussion right now on Walt Bodine.


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 Post subject: Re: River Dogs, East Bottoms hot dog shack
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am 
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I find Fritz's knackwurst acceptable, but when I stock up , I head to Krizman's in KCK. I prefer their spicy knackwurst. Source my Polish there too now that Mrs. Sadecki died and her kids dropped the ball.

KC Sausages I miss:
Reagan's (7th and Central, KCK) was a carnercia for a short time - now a vacant lot.
Sadecki's (7th street, up the hill south a few block from Central) The best Polish. Mrs. Sadecki died and the kids, who were suppose to take over, failed. Store is still there, slowly deteriorating.
Begulia's Italian. Made out of Uncle Charlie's Market on St. John, a few blocks west of Van Brundt, KCMO. The old man died and the kids made it for a while, but it wasn't the same. Don't see even that anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: River Dogs, East Bottoms hot dog shack
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:14 am 
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Well, River Dogs appears to have been a short-lived experiment. Too bad, though not too surprising.


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 Post subject: Re: River Dogs, East Bottoms hot dog shack
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:10 pm 
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DougT wrote:
KC Sausages I miss:
Reagan's (7th and Central, KCK) was a carnercia for a short time - now a vacant lot.
Sadecki's (7th street, up the hill south a few block from Central) The best Polish.


Ragan's and Sadecki's are really, sorely missed. When we opened the winery in '77, we worked out a deal with Ragan's to make their brats and knacks to the same gauge for us, and we sold them by the ton. Best genuine veal brat I've had in the U.S. (An almost comparable one can be had here, and in the Winter it's feasible to order via UPS: it's WELL worth it). Damn what a loss they are...

Sadecki's polish needed a gentle boil before grilling, or that's what the old man told me. His oldest kid was a big league pitcher.

What is it that makes good sausage harder and harder to find? I mean, how in the world could Ragan's *fail* with such a great product? and, IIRC, they owned the building.

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 Post subject: Re: River Dogs, East Bottoms hot dog shack
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:25 pm 
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That's him. Huge photo of Ray Sadecki on the back wall of the market.

On a semi-related note, in the 80's I managed a bicycle shop at 95th and Antioch. Across the street to the west, in Valley View Shopping center, was George's Pizza. Think Imo's before they opened here. Anyway, George was Robin Roberts' brother. So what is it about KC food purveyors and MLB Baseball players? For that matter, my nephew is a pitcher for the Dodgers, so maybe I should open up some KC retro style joint.

Mrs. Sadecki told me once that the sausage wasn't cooked beyond the smokehouse and should definitely be boiled before consuming. Judging by what the things would look and smell like if they got lost in the back of the fridge a couple weeks, I belived her.


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