pairs4life wrote:It will be repealed. But the repeal date will not be effective until 12-1-17.
And then we have to figure out what will the next method be to shore up revenue that will not come back to Cook over this. Folks have gotten used to shopping outside and I doubt they will come back.
Katie wrote:The fact that it's also a tax on zero-calorie artificially sweetened beverages makes me think it's less about social policy and more about generating revenue via what is essentially a sin tax.
Morrison said revenue from the tax has fallen far short of the Preckwinkle administration’s projections already. The county expected to get about $9 million a month from the tax, but Morrison said only $300,000 was collected in August, which means consumers either weren’t buying soda, or were going to other counties to do so.
ronnie_suburban wrote:My issue with this tax is that is doesn't necessarily solve the intended problem. There's no guarantee that making these items more expensive is going to reduce or deter their consumption.
ronnie_suburban wrote:What time is the big vote today?
My issue with this tax is that is doesn't necessarily solve the intended problem. There's no guarantee that making these items more expensive is going to reduce or deter their consumption. We definitely need a lot more education in this area -- especially among the groups this tax claims to protect -- but I don't believe for a minute that this tax is/was going to accomplish that.
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JoelF wrote:ronnie_suburban wrote:My issue with this tax is that is doesn't necessarily solve the intended problem. There's no guarantee that making these items more expensive is going to reduce or deter their consumption.
This is particularly true because those on lower incomes are at the highest risk of diabetes and other nutrition-oriented health risks (because empty calories are cheaper than fruit, milk, etc), and SNAP recipients do not pay any sales tax -- so you're not helping their health at all.
chicagotribune.com wrote:The Cook County soda pop tax is one step away from repeal after commissioners on Tuesday favored doing away with the controversial tax in a key test vote.
The County Board Finance Committee voted 15-1 for a measure that would do away with the penny-an-ounce tax on sugar- and artificially sweetened beverages, with final action expected at Wednesday’s board meeting.
chicagotribune.com wrote:The Cook County Board finished the job on Wednesday and repealed the controversial pop tax, which means soda drinkers won’t have to pay it come Dec. 1.
The repeal was a foregone conclusion after the board’s Finance Committee voted 15-1 on Tuesday, signaling the pop tax would be scrapped after just four months.
ronnie_suburban wrote:Cook County Board repeals pop taxchicagotribune.com wrote:The Cook County Board finished the job on Wednesday and repealed the controversial pop tax, which means soda drinkers won’t have to pay it come Dec. 1.
The repeal was a foregone conclusion after the board’s Finance Committee voted 15-1 on Tuesday, signaling the pop tax would be scrapped after just four months.
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Katie wrote:I would be more inclined to agree with you and others who make the social policy argument if this were a tax on only high-calorie sugar- and HFCS-sweetened beverages. The fact that it's also a tax on zero-calorie artificially sweetened beverages makes me think it's less about social policy and more about generating revenue via what is essentially a sin tax. In addition, if this tax were really about public health concerns, why not, as polster and, more recently, the Chicago Tribune have pointed out, also apply the tax to candy and other non-artificially sweetened snacks?
pairs4life wrote:beloved Coke Zero . . .
ronnie_suburban wrote:pairs4life wrote:beloved Coke Zero . . .
Why, why, why? Did they learn nothing from the Coke 2 debacle? I don't drink soda but I feel bad for all the folks who are getting hosed by the marketing 'geniuses' in Atlanta.
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Katie wrote:Why RIP re Coke Zero? I am a fan too. I prefer the with-caffeine variety but sometimes buy the without-caffeine variety. If you like, I will pick up a pack of cans of either for you this week, pairs; I noticed they're on sale at my local... Jewel, I think.
pairs4life wrote:I won’t drink diet pepsi either. I will drink diet A & W and of course the Barritt’s & Gosling’s diet ginger beers.
AlekH wrote:Giving up soda is probably the best decision I've made as an adult to date.
AlekH wrote:Giving up soda is probably the best decision I've made as an adult to date.
pairs4life wrote:AlekH wrote:Giving up soda is probably the best decision I've made as an adult to date.
Interesting. Do tell why.
I love bubbles so nope on this end.
stevez wrote:My Dr. Pepper obsessed friend speaks quite highly of the diet Dr. Pepper concoction, FWIW.
pairs4life wrote:Katie wrote:Why RIP re Coke Zero?
They killed Coke Zero. They have some re-formulated New Coke/ Coke II thing called Coke Zero sugar. It isn’t the same. It is not better.