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  • Post #151 - June 19th, 2018, 10:54 am
    Post #151 - June 19th, 2018, 10:54 am Post #151 - June 19th, 2018, 10:54 am
    Since you two are at odds, I'll have to take one for the team and see what happens. Place your bets!
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love
    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach
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  • Post #152 - June 19th, 2018, 11:04 am
    Post #152 - June 19th, 2018, 11:04 am Post #152 - June 19th, 2018, 11:04 am
    Pie Lady wrote:I accidentally left my Cedar's hummus out all night. So basically, it's been sitting on my desk since "breakfast" yesterday. Can I polish this off without dying?

    I'd eat it without hesitation, though I never would have bought it in the first place. :wink:

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  • Post #153 - June 19th, 2018, 11:24 am
    Post #153 - June 19th, 2018, 11:24 am Post #153 - June 19th, 2018, 11:24 am
    JustJoan is right: it's cheap, why risk it?

    OTOH, it contains both oil and citric acid, each of which contributes to stability. I suspect it would be just fine––but why risk it?

    On the whole question "Darest I?" I've just found a most interesting website devoted to this very issue: https://www.doesitgobad.com/does-hummus-go-bad/

    Geo
    Sooo, you like wine and are looking for something good to read? Maybe *this* will do the trick! :)
  • Post #154 - June 19th, 2018, 12:21 pm
    Post #154 - June 19th, 2018, 12:21 pm Post #154 - June 19th, 2018, 12:21 pm
    Pie Lady wrote:Since you two are at odds, I'll have to take one for the team and see what happens. Place your bets!


    if you die, i'm not attending your funeral (!)
  • Post #155 - June 19th, 2018, 12:49 pm
    Post #155 - June 19th, 2018, 12:49 pm Post #155 - June 19th, 2018, 12:49 pm
    justjoan wrote:
    Pie Lady wrote:Since you two are at odds, I'll have to take one for the team and see what happens. Place your bets!


    if you die, i'm not attending your funeral (!)


    I wasn't planning on having anything but cupcakes anyway :P
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love
    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach
    Read "Cooking for One" at Literary Orphans via my author page.

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  • Post #156 - June 19th, 2018, 12:50 pm
    Post #156 - June 19th, 2018, 12:50 pm Post #156 - June 19th, 2018, 12:50 pm
    Geo wrote:JustJoan is right: it's cheap, why risk it?

    OTOH, it contains both oil and citric acid, each of which contributes to stability. I suspect it would be just fine––but why risk it?

    On the whole question "Darest I?" I've just found a most interesting website devoted to this very issue: https://www.doesitgobad.com/does-hummus-go-bad/

    Geo


    Hey, neato. Thanks!
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love
    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach
    Read "Cooking for One" at Literary Orphans via my author page.

    Late-Nite Eats Database
  • Post #157 - June 19th, 2018, 12:52 pm
    Post #157 - June 19th, 2018, 12:52 pm Post #157 - June 19th, 2018, 12:52 pm
    Well after further debate, we're still even, 2:2.

    I tried it over an hour ago and I'm still alive. No problems. If that changes and I take a turn for the worse, I'll write back before I meet the grillmaster in the sky.
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love
    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach
    Read "Cooking for One" at Literary Orphans via my author page.

    Late-Nite Eats Database
  • Post #158 - June 23rd, 2018, 9:12 pm
    Post #158 - June 23rd, 2018, 9:12 pm Post #158 - June 23rd, 2018, 9:12 pm
    Darest I ...

    (1) Drink plain kefir with an exp date of 5/22/18? It looks and smells fine. Smells like buttermilk.

    (2) (This one's a bit more embarassing) Eat some unopened Yoplait custard-style yogurts with a Nov 2017 exp date? Last time I opened one, a few weeks ago (I said it was embarassing), it was fine. I used it in a smoothie.

    The general question is what to think of best-by or expiration dates for cultured dairy products? Do the live cultures extend the product life or make them more dangerous over time? In the past I've had buttermilk and sour cream last much longer than I expected.
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  • Post #159 - June 23rd, 2018, 9:52 pm
    Post #159 - June 23rd, 2018, 9:52 pm Post #159 - June 23rd, 2018, 9:52 pm
    Most "use by" dates note when the product is no longer at its best: texture changes, loss of flavor, etc. It doesn't mean spoiled. Unopened yogurt appears to be pretty safe stuff, but it might be more watery or curdled. The one product which I've had go moldy a couple times now without being opened (and long before the expiration date) is sliced muenster.
    Once opened, it's another thing entirely. If I open a large tub of yogurt and don't use it all, though, it's almost certain to grow green stuff. Not good eats.
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  • Post #160 - June 24th, 2018, 12:00 am
    Post #160 - June 24th, 2018, 12:00 am Post #160 - June 24th, 2018, 12:00 am
    Kefir, in particular, can remain unspoiled for a very long time. Unlike other cultured dairy products, kefir is fermented not only with beneficial bacteria, but also with yeasts. So much going on in there, spoilage bacteria almost don't have a chance.
  • Post #161 - June 25th, 2018, 12:02 pm
    Post #161 - June 25th, 2018, 12:02 pm Post #161 - June 25th, 2018, 12:02 pm
    I'd definitely give the thumbs up to #1.
    #2...if you ate the other one only a couple weeks ago, I'd try that one. If the smell and appearance is fine I bet you will be too.
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love
    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach
    Read "Cooking for One" at Literary Orphans via my author page.

    Late-Nite Eats Database
  • Post #162 - August 21st, 2018, 11:21 pm
    Post #162 - August 21st, 2018, 11:21 pm Post #162 - August 21st, 2018, 11:21 pm
    I bought a crapton of travel dealies of Dunkies' coffee today, and instead of the little wiener tubs of creamer, they gave me a whole half gallon of light cream. At the end of the event, there was, oh, 6 ounces tops left in there. And I promptly forgot to refrigerate it.

    It was out from roughly 12:30pm and will be until I get to work tomorrow, roughly 8:30am. How dead will I be if I put it in the fridge immediately and wait a day to spike my coffee with it? Will it be cheese? Will I be toast?
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love
    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach
    Read "Cooking for One" at Literary Orphans via my author page.

    Late-Nite Eats Database
  • Post #163 - August 22nd, 2018, 7:16 am
    Post #163 - August 22nd, 2018, 7:16 am Post #163 - August 22nd, 2018, 7:16 am
    Pie Lady,

    If it smells ok, I'd not hesitate an instant. Pasteurized+Homogenized dairy doesn't go off naturally, it hangs on and then goes with nasty smelling stuff. Cream also is stabler than milk. So smell and lightly taste it. If it doesn't seem 'odd', it's certainly ok enough to use in your coffee.

    Geo
    Sooo, you like wine and are looking for something good to read? Maybe *this* will do the trick! :)
  • Post #164 - August 22nd, 2018, 8:23 am
    Post #164 - August 22nd, 2018, 8:23 am Post #164 - August 22nd, 2018, 8:23 am
    Pie Lady wrote:At the end of the event, there was, oh, 6 ounces tops left in there. And I promptly forgot to refrigerate it.

    It was out from roughly 12:30pm and will be until I get to work tomorrow, roughly 8:30am. ... Will it be cheese? Will I be toast?

    Odds are the worst case scenario is creme fraiche. Probably not what you want in your coffee, but maybe pick up a pint of strawberries on the way to work and you'll be a hero.
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #165 - August 22nd, 2018, 11:37 am
    Post #165 - August 22nd, 2018, 11:37 am Post #165 - August 22nd, 2018, 11:37 am
    Okay, that was less than delicious...
    I couldn't tell if the off smell was the plastic jug or the cream. It tasted okay. I poured it into hot coffee and I got a sea of chunks. Still tasted okay, but the texture was so off-putting I tossed the rest. RIP, old cream.
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love
    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach
    Read "Cooking for One" at Literary Orphans via my author page.

    Late-Nite Eats Database
  • Post #166 - August 22nd, 2018, 11:59 am
    Post #166 - August 22nd, 2018, 11:59 am Post #166 - August 22nd, 2018, 11:59 am
    Yeah, the 'chunks' are indication of curding, a natural process 'condensing' the proteins. First step on the way toward cheese, given that the following steps are correct! : )

    Geo
    Sooo, you like wine and are looking for something good to read? Maybe *this* will do the trick! :)
  • Post #167 - August 22nd, 2018, 12:08 pm
    Post #167 - August 22nd, 2018, 12:08 pm Post #167 - August 22nd, 2018, 12:08 pm
    Sometimes, though, things will curdle into chunks even if they aren't "bad" per se. For instance, I can't pour soy milk into hot coffee without it separating, but if I put soy milk into a cup, and then slowly add the hot coffee into it, that works. Nevermind that I don't prefer soy milk in coffee. I think it's the same idea of putting your milk into the cup and then adding your tea, instead of the other way.
    Leek

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  • Post #168 - August 22nd, 2018, 12:10 pm
    Post #168 - August 22nd, 2018, 12:10 pm Post #168 - August 22nd, 2018, 12:10 pm
    True. I've had this happen with older cream/half&half that are still perfectly good. Boo hiss.
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love
    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach
    Read "Cooking for One" at Literary Orphans via my author page.

    Late-Nite Eats Database
  • Post #169 - August 22nd, 2018, 12:12 pm
    Post #169 - August 22nd, 2018, 12:12 pm Post #169 - August 22nd, 2018, 12:12 pm
    My hypothesis, leek, would be that the proteins in the soy milk (I suspect that there's some albumin in there) are behaving exactly as do the proteins in eggs. When you combine eggs and a hot liquid, you have to 'temper' the eggs by gradual addition of the hot liquid. Same with soy milk, I should think.

    Geo
    Sooo, you like wine and are looking for something good to read? Maybe *this* will do the trick! :)

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