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    Post #1 - September 17th, 2004, 7:44 pm
    Post #1 - September 17th, 2004, 7:44 pm Post #1 - September 17th, 2004, 7:44 pm
    David "Hat" Hammond once famously declared, "I hate soup." It was a sentiment he later told me, borne out of frustration with the post Thanksgiving turkey carcass broth forced on him yearly. Yet, soup-phobia was a sentiment I found easy to accept. I was never a big soup fan. To me, soup meant something to fill you up in lieu of more meat. Moreover, I resented soup lovers. It was always easier to get a bowl of soup with your meal than say a plate of herring. Most Local Greek diners offer soup more readily than say, salad. So, I supported soup hating. Now, did I say salad. Salad was supposed to be the other side. Soup was red state, salad blue state (or something like that). I thought Hammond and I were the salad team. Then, he comes out and says, he hates salad too. He called salad stupid. Stupid for its oily mess, stupid for its faux calorie saving, and stupid because it was hard to digest. Hell, he even accused salad of harboring bacteria. I adore salad.

    Of course, who really loves salad, that base of lettuce, tomatoes and other vegetables (except my daughter Hannah who willingly eats plain lettuce). What I and most other salad lovers really adore is salad dressing. Is there any kitchen product better than salad dressing? I should ask, is there any kitchen product so accessible, yet so wonderful as salad dressing. I mean I love hollandaise sauce too, but I have nary the patience to make it. And I love mayonnaise but only feel confident in making it when we have pasturized eggs. I can make a great vinaigrette always. Not just always because it is a rather idiot proof recipe, but always because the ingredients are nearly always around. Something acid, something base, like kids with a bunch of litmus strips to play with. Each end contributes to good taste. Acid excites the tongue and all our senses. Oil makes us feel sated. It is lush on the palate. Together, they balance each other so that the shock of one is not too great, and the richness of the other is not to full. Besides, and here's where it gets truly scary. A lot, nay most, bottled salad dressings taste good too because they also have that magic combination. Day glo "French" even has its odd moments of glory. I have mentioned before how the simple combination of catsup and mayo makes a product infinitely better than its component parts. In fact the only salad dressings that I feel are lesser, are when sugars push into the party too hard and interfere with that equilibrium.

    Still, do we eat salad dressing alone? Salad dressing is like an orchestra conductor. Without him or her, the musicians cannot function, but without facing an orchestra, a conductor's just a person waving arms. Salad dressing must have salad to be relevant. I noted above that absent a certain 10 year old girl living in Oak Park, people hardly enjoy the taste of lettuce. Salad dressing not only tames the bitterness of greens, it affects an alchemy. It may be messy and laden with calories, but boy does it taste good when combined with vegetables. It does the ideal thing to lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, carrots or any of a bunch of other vegetable that could possibly be considered "salad."

    I like all salads. All forms of goods under dressing, but I love best the composed salad, the chopped salad, the julienne salad, the antipasto salad, whatever you want to call it. Add a bit of heft from chopped chicken breast, some pugency of blue cheese, crunchy-salt of bacon, fat of salami or whatever, and the salad is just that much better. In the middle of Oak Park is an odd restaurant called Thyme and Honey run by a dapper Greek with an affection for loud pocket squares. His restaurant produces some surprisingly good things, including one of the best chopped steaks around. I, however, can barely budge from their composed salad. Today, like nearly every time I go to Thyme and Honey, I got the julienne salad. None of the produce or other ingredients is especially, special but it is the sheer amount of them, working off of each other that makes this salad so great. It is lettuce and tomato and hard cooked eggs and celery and green onion (and red onion which I skip) and green peppers and rice stuffed grape leaves and greek broad beans and ham and turkey and two kinds of cheese and cucumber. And it is lots of dressing, made in house, featuring bits of lemons and onions--the former a bit of a pain as I was having this salad today at a business lunch and I kept on finding pieces of lemon peel in my mouth.

    I douse the salad with the dressing, add generous amounts of salt and fresh ground pepper, spend five or more minutes obliterating it all into as fine a mix as possible, then find myself with about 25 minutes of sheer bliss for I am eating salad. I love salad.

    Thyme & Honey
    100 S Oak Park
    Oak Park
    708-386-2332
  • Post #2 - September 17th, 2004, 7:56 pm
    Post #2 - September 17th, 2004, 7:56 pm Post #2 - September 17th, 2004, 7:56 pm
    Vital Information wrote:In the middle of Oak Park is an odd restaurant called Thyme and Honey run by a dapper Greek with an affection for loud pocket squares.


    Unfortunately the dapper Greek with the pocket squares, famous also for his penchant for getting in trouble with Village Hall for painting too many pictures on his awnings, died in April. Perhaps in a last grand gesture toward the Oak Park sign ordinance, the restaurant had a large (3 X 5?)picture of him in the window (yes, with the pocket square) for a month or so after he died.

    http://www.obitpage.com/obits/n/nicolaou_george.html
  • Post #3 - September 17th, 2004, 8:53 pm
    Post #3 - September 17th, 2004, 8:53 pm Post #3 - September 17th, 2004, 8:53 pm
    Ann Fisher wrote:
    Vital Information wrote:In the middle of Oak Park is an odd restaurant called Thyme and Honey run by a dapper Greek with an affection for loud pocket squares.


    Unfortunately the dapper Greek with the pocket squares, famous also for his penchant for getting in trouble with Village Hall for painting too many pictures on his awnings, died in April. Perhaps in a last grand gesture toward the Oak Park sign ordinance, the restaurant had a large (3 X 5?)picture of him in the window (yes, with the pocket square) for a month or so after he died.

    http://www.obitpage.com/obits/n/nicolaou_george.html


    Wow, I did not know that. Thanks for the update.

    Rob
  • Post #4 - September 17th, 2004, 11:40 pm
    Post #4 - September 17th, 2004, 11:40 pm Post #4 - September 17th, 2004, 11:40 pm
    Vital Information wrote:I adore salad.

    Have you learned the Salad is Good song?

    Vital Information wrote:I love hollandaise sauce too, but I have nary the patience to make it.

    But it's so easy! It takes about 5 minutes -- less if you melt the butter in the microwave.
      Never-fail hollandaise

      1/4 pound butter
      4 egg yolks
      2 tablespoons lemon juice
      1/4 teaspoon salt
      1/8 teaspoon white pepper

      Melt the butter in a small pan on the stove or in the microwave. While it melts, combine the remaining ingredients in a blender. Blend at high speed about 30 seconds.

      With the blender running at high speed, add the hot, melted butter a drop at a time. As the mixture thickens, you can pick up the pace to a slow, thin stream, pouring faster after about half the butter is in. Blend till thick and satiny.

      Serve immediately or transfer to a Thermos or the top half of a double boiler to keep warm. 1 1/3 cups.

    Vital Information wrote:Soup was red state, salad blue state

    Naughty, naughty, you know we're not supposed to talk about politics here. :)

    Edited to fix broken link
    Last edited by LAZ on May 28th, 2008, 3:30 pm, edited 2 times in total.
  • Post #5 - September 18th, 2004, 11:37 am
    Post #5 - September 18th, 2004, 11:37 am Post #5 - September 18th, 2004, 11:37 am
    Vital Information wrote: What I and most other salad lovers really adore is salad dressing. Is there any kitchen product better than salad dressing? I should ask, is there any kitchen product so accessible, yet so wonderful as salad dressing.


    Right on! I've been known to use Marie's Blue Cheese salad dressing (the real stuff, not the ick, ptui, "lite" stuff) in lieu of mayo on my sandwiches. Turkey, lettuce, tomato, sharp cheddar and some dressing on a nice roll, yum!

    Anyone ever have the monumentally large julienne salads at Manny's? It's as if they squeezed a whole salad bar into a bowl.
    Objects in mirror appear to be losing.
  • Post #6 - September 21st, 2004, 4:41 pm
    Post #6 - September 21st, 2004, 4:41 pm Post #6 - September 21st, 2004, 4:41 pm
    I really like salads. And I like greens, of most sorts, almost all alone. I am not, strangely, a fan of big salad dressings. When done properly, they are good (as is true of just about any and all food stuffs for me), but I prefer good greens with simpler seasonings. Mostly, I like simple variations on oil vinegar, lemon juice, onion/shallot, garlic and herbs. Sometimes just one ingredient, other times all of them.

    And I do not like the chef, choppped and cobb-type salads so much. Again, a good one is certainly tasty, but most often they are a mass of lousy lettuce, and mediocre cold cuts and cheese.

    What I do like is good leftover steak in a salad, or smoked meats of fish. And salade nicoise, and lardon are pretty good.

    BTW, I lived off simple tomato salads for a while after scoring a bunch of heirloom tomatos at city farm during a recent slow foods dinner. The Beefsteak tomatoes were particularly wonderful. Simple vinaigrette, chopped red onion, and a crumble of blue cheese. Less than five minutes to make, and just blissful.
    d
    Feeling (south) loopy
  • Post #7 - October 15th, 2004, 9:10 pm
    Post #7 - October 15th, 2004, 9:10 pm Post #7 - October 15th, 2004, 9:10 pm
    Unlike my home strategy of basic salad when I dine out I pile on the calories.We went to the Glenview location of Sweet Tomatoes.They always have 4 prepared lettuce/ spinach salads,5 bean/pasta,rice,potato salads,and 6 soups.Plus a make your own salad bar,breads,potato bar.3 prepared pastas and dessert.Some of today's better offerings were a beef stew,a spinach salad with pumpkin seeds and cranberries and a fire roasted tomato basil alfredo.The one big complaint I have is that they do not offer as many of the things listed in the website.They always seem to offer the Joan's broccoli salad which is tasty and the chicken soup which is bland.My sister cannot usually eat the prepared rice and potato salads which are typically mayo based.If they made more oil and vinegar or mustard based ones she'd be happier.

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